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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.21 23:52:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Guttripper wrote:I've always been curious about something - has anyone ever been known to go to the Fanfest, found a particular person that ganked or scammed that person, and then broke that person's nose right there and then in real life revenge? So you're saying that someone who is deathly terrified of losing some imaginary spacepixel items in a videogame, would have the fortitude to put his real life well-being at risk in a violent act against the person who caused him the loss of said imaginary spacepixels? Does that not in the least bit seem absurd to you? Careful. That sword of yours can cut both ways. Can I also claim that someone willing to suicide his ship in game has a death wish in real life? Or does this theory of yours only apply to carebears? |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Careful. That sword of yours can cut both ways. Can I claim that someone willing to suicide his ship in game has a death wish in real life? Or does your theory only apply to carebears? To be fair, it's those carebears who insist on in-game behaviour reflecting real-life intentions and motivations, and who keep accusing gankers of being sociopaths. So it wouldn't be much of a stretch to believe that those carebears would indeed do something as stupid (and, contradictory enough, sociopathic), whereas those who insist that it's just a game and that the carebears shouldn't get their panties in a wad, and who can separate that game from reality, are less likely to make such trivial in-game matter spill over into real lifeGǪ So yes, it wouldn't be particularly strange if the theory only applied to the carebears in questionGǪ Except that plenty of gankers have orgasms and get frothy at the mouth over "tears". Do these idiots seem well-adjusted to you? If they're just playing a "game" why get so excited over making people mad and quit? Do you find that enjoying making people miserable even if it's by using a game as the tool is considered to be well-adjusted? |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:14:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Guttripper wrote:I've always been curious about something - has anyone ever been known to go to the Fanfest, found a particular person that ganked or scammed that person, and then broke that person's nose right there and then in real life revenge? So you're saying that someone who is deathly terrified of losing some imaginary spacepixel items in a videogame, would have the fortitude to put his real life well-being at risk in a violent act against the person who caused him the loss of said imaginary spacepixels? Does that not in the least bit seem absurd to you? Careful. That sword of yours can cut both ways. Can I also claim that someone willing to suicide his ship in game has a death wish in real life? Or does this theory of yours only apply to carebears? My theory is that someone cowardly enough to decry pvp combat in a pvp-combat-oriented game is less likely, not more likely, to risk harm to his own person in real life. Assuming this individual is of sound mind, of course. Granted, my theory is highly flawed, and doesn't take into account the myriad details and quirks that make up a person's psyche. What's truly troubling, however, is that someone would bring real violence upon another over intangible videogame possessions (once again, assuming they were destroyed via legitimate gameplay mechanics and not, say, password theft). So then we agree that someone that "plays" with the intention of getting people upset likely a sadist in real life. As I said, that sword of yours cuts both ways. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Except that plenty of gankers have orgasms and get frothy at the mouth over "tears". Do they seem well-adjusted to you?
As well adjusted as any monopoly player who fans himself with his wad of cash with a broad smirk on his face. Do you know what ill intentions are? Can you figure out how ill intentions make your example irrelevant to mine?
You were so quick to claim carebears likely carry their behavior into real life but so reserved in making the same claim about players that intentionally seek to upset people (ie collect "tears") in a game. Why? :). |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:27:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Except that plenty of gankers have orgasms and get frothy at the mouth over "tears". Do they seem well-adjusted to you? If these idiots are just playing a "game" why get so excited over making people mad and quit? Using a game as a tool to ruin people's fun is well-adjusted to you? They quit by their own volition. It is not our intent to make them quit. However, if they do, we will laugh and ridicule them. But that's not what I'm asking you :). I'll ask you again because you bypassed my question:
Do you think that someone that plays with the intention of hurting and making someone mad is well-adjusted? Or do you think, that it is likely they're a sadist in real life? You certainly make the claim that this is the case for carebears. So I'm curious if you think that you're theory only holds for that one play style you hate :). |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:36:00 -
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Cambarus wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Tippia wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Except that plenty of gankers have orgasms and get frothy at the mouth over "tears". Do they seem well-adjusted to you?
As well adjusted as any monopoly player who fans himself with his wad of cash with a broad smirk on his face. Do you know what ill intentions are? Can you figure out how ill intentions make your example irrelevant to mine? You were so quick to claim carebears likely carry their behavior into real life but so reserved in making the same claim about players that intentionally seek to upset people (ie collect "tears") in a game. Watching someone rage and walk away/flip the board in a game of monopoly is 10 times more satisfying, and infinitely more hilarious, then simply beating them. And I will ask again, because we keep avoiding the question:
Do you think that someone that plays with the intention of making people upset (ie collect "tears") is likely a well-adjusted human being?
Come on, guys. I'm not asking a trick question. Tippia and Destiny Corrupted seem to think that carebear behavoir most likely transcensds to real life. I'm using your same logic to see if you feel the same should apply to in-game tear collectors.And if not, why not? |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:45:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Come on, guys. I'm not asking a trick question. Tippia and Destiny Corrupted seem to think that carebear behavoir most likely transcensds to real life. I'm using your same logic to see if you feel the same should apply to in-game tear collectors.And if not, why not? No, I never stated that. I simply stated a theory that dealt with one specific element of real/virtual world interaction. It was an opinion rooted in deductive reasoning, and not a statement of fact. I never said that videogame behavior directly translates into real-life behavior, or vice versa. I simply stated that I think a rational person who is afraid of losing imaginary items will be more likely to avoid risking actual, tangible things, like his real-life well-being. Here:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:So you're saying that someone who is deathly terrified of losing some imaginary spacepixel items in a videogame, would have the fortitude to put his real life well-being at risk in a violent act against the person who caused him the loss of said imaginary spacepixels? Does that not in the least bit seem absurd to you? |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:48:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:And pray tell, how did you interpret that quote as a statement of fact? I know it's your opinion. I'm wondering if you feel the same way about players on the other side of the fence. Or if you feel that your "theory" only holds water against carebears. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:52:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Come on, guys. I'm not asking a trick question. Tippia and Destiny Corrupted seem to think that carebear behavoir most likely transcensds to real life. I'm using your same logic to see if you feel the same should apply to in-game tear collectors.And if not, why not? No, I never stated that. I simply stated a theory that dealt with one specific element of real/virtual world interaction. It was an opinion rooted in deductive reasoning, and not a statement of fact. I never said that videogame behavior directly translates into real-life behavior, or vice versa. I simply stated that I think a rational person who is afraid of losing imaginary items will be more likely to avoid risking actual, tangible things, like his real-life well-being. Here: Destiny Corrupted wrote:So you're saying that someone who is deathly terrified of losing some imaginary spacepixel items in a videogame, would have the fortitude to put his real life well-being at risk in a violent act against the person who caused him the loss of said imaginary spacepixels? Does that not in the least bit seem absurd to you? He seems to be saying the exact opposite of what you are claiming he is saying. A TLDR for ya:
Destiny Corrupted is claiming that carebears, who are "terrified" of losing pixels, most likely are also terrified of getting into fights in real life. Basically, behavior in-game likely translates to behavior out of game for carebears. I'm asking if the same could apply to grief players. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.22 01:50:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:Enjoying the "tantrum" of the carebear and collecting the tears off him puts you in the same field as said carebear. You are all, simply sides of the same coin, pretending to be above, below or even sideways of them is kinda delusional. just sayin' QFT |
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